usage of reversed() expression in Mendix

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Hi,   I am going through Mendix advanced certification course and I see following text in one of the chapters (https://academy.mendix.com/link/modules/373/lectures/3038/6.3.2-Querying-in-Reverse)    The [reversed ()] expression can only be applied on self-references. When an association is between two different object types, the platform will be able to determine the direction of the join automatically.   I am little bit confused, the 1st statement says reversed() expression is only applicable to self references. The second statement talks about association between two different object types. If the reversed() expression is only applicable to self reference, under what condition we can use the reversed expression for different object types? These two statements can also be read as two independent facts without connecting with each other, but then it makes me think why they are written together if that is the case? Can experts please clarify if I am missing something.   Thanks, Sameer
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“The [reversed ()] expression can only be applied on self-references. When an association is between two different object types, the platform will be able to determine the direction of the join automatically.”

 

The first statement explains that reversed() can only be used in self references. The second statement explains why reversed() is not useful for references between different object types – there, the platform can always determine the direction of the association automatically, because there is a known owner of the association.

 

Imagine a reference LineItem → Order

Here, when traversing the association, the direction is clear.

 

Now imagine a self-reference of User

Which User is the owner? Each user may have a parent and/or a child, so you need to be able to explicitly tell it which way the association should be traversed.

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Hi Sameer!

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We cannot use the [reversed()] expression in the context of two different object types, just self-references.

Kindly refer https://forum.mendix.com/link/space/app-development/questions/2882 as well.

And the end part of the doc Querying-in-Reverse refers to querying specialization objects with the help of a java action to get the parent object from the specialized object.

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